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Most Traders Will Tell You To Stay Away From Indicators (Guest Post)

Most Traders Will Tell You To Stay Away From Indicators (Guest Post)

Learn how to switch gears and use different indicators for different market conditions. Indicators are a derivative of price. They simply indicate to you what has happened, not what will happen. So you’ll never be a profitable trader if you solely rely on trading indicators to make your decisions.

This post was originally posted here. The writer, Rayner Teo is a veteran community member and blogger on InvestingNote, with username known as Rayner and has 329 followers.

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Most traders will tell you to stay away from indicators.
They give you reasons like:
  • It lags the market
  • It gives you late entries
  • It can’t predict what the markets will do

Nope, those are excuses.

Want to know the real reason why traders lose money with indicators?

Here’s why…

You got conned into the “indicators game”

Many traders don’t know how this game is supposed to be played.

They believe the answer lies in the “right” combination of indicators that will make them rich.

So they buy the latest trading indicators to help them crack the code.

And after many failed attempts, they wonder why they lose money with trading indicators.

Do you want to know why?

Here’s the truth…

Indicators are a derivative of price. They simply indicate to you what has happened, not what will happen.

So, no matter how many different combinations you try, you’ll never be a profitable trader if you solely rely on trading indicators to make your decisions.

Trading indicators are meant to aid your decision-making process, not be the decision-maker.

Trading indicators: Do you make this mistake?

Look at the chart below…

Now, you might be thinking…

“Look how strong the signal is.”

“All three indicators are pointing in the same direction.”

“The market is about to move higher.”

Sorry to burst your bubble.

But that’s the wrong way to use trading indicators.


Because the RSI, CCI, and Stochastic indicator belong to the same category (otherwise known as Oscillators).

This means the values of these indicators are calculated using similar mathematical formulas — which explains why their lines move in the same direction.

So don’t make the mistake of thinking a signal is “strong” because multiple indicators confirm it. Chances are, they are indicators from the same category.

You blindly copy what others do

Here’s the thing:

There are profitable traders out there who use indicators in their trading.

And you’re probably thinking:

“Since they are making money with these indicators, why don’t I just copy them?”

So, that’s what you do.

You follow the same indicators, settings, instructions, etc.

But, you still lose money with trading indicators.


Because what you see is only the surface, not the complete picture.

Here’s an example:

Let’s say Michael is a profitable trader who relies on trading indicators to time his entries and exits.

Now, the reason why Michael finds success with indicators is not that he found the “perfect” settings or whatsoever.

Rather, it’s because he knows how to switch gears and use different indicators for different market conditions.

So if you were to blindly follow what he does, then when the market changes, your trading indicators will stop working and that’s when the bleeding starts.


How professional traders use indicators (it’s not what you think)

At this point, you’ve learned that trading indicators shouldn’t be the basis of your analysis and why you shouldn’t copy other traders.

So now the question is, how do you use trading indicators the correct way?

The secret is this…

You want to classify trading indicators according to their purpose, then use the appropriate trading indicators for the right purpose.

So, what’s the purpose of trading indicators?

Well, you can use them to:

  1. Filter for market conditions
  2. Identify areas of value
  3. Time your entries
  4. Manage your trades

Let me explain…

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Upcoming Workshop: Applying The Multiple Time Frame Analysis To Stocks

Upcoming Workshop: Applying The Multiple Time Frame Analysis To Stocks

What Is Multiple Time-Frame Analysis?

Multiple time-frame analysis involves monitoring the same currency pair across different frequencies (or time compressions). While there is no real limit as to how many frequencies can be monitored or which specific ones to choose, there are general guidelines that most practitioners will follow.

Typically, using three different periods gives a broad enough reading on the market, while using fewer than this can result in a considerable loss of data, and using more typically provides redundant analysis. When choosing the three time frequencies, a simple strategy can be to follow a “rule of four.” This means that a medium-term period should first be determined and it should represent a standard as to how long the average trade is held. From there, a shorter term time frame should be chosen and it should be at least one-fourth the intermediate period (for example, a 15-minute chart for the short-term time frame and 60-minute chart for the medium or intermediate time frame). Through the same calculation, the long-term time frame should be at least four times greater than the intermediate one (so, keeping with the previous example, the 240-minute or four-hour chart would round out the three time frequencies).

This method can also work for the stock market, and this technical analysis workshop for intermediate traders will show you how.


In this workshop, you’ll learn about:
✔ Understanding the types of markets and how it impacts your strategies
✔ Incorporating different timeframes into your trading to maximise your trades
✔ The one most important thing that professionals use to test their and verify their strategies
✔ How to utilise two simple technical analysis tools effectively that usually outperform complicated tools
✔ Habits and daily regimes of successful traders that every trader needs to know and follow

There will also be live chart trading examples to highlight the importance of multiple time frame analysis, that can be applied for the stock market.

You can look forward to upgrade your trading skillset in this 3-hour workshop on 2 Nov, Saturday 10am – 2pm.

This exclusive event is free to attend and sponsored by City Index.

Register now, come later! 


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How To Use Trend Line Correctly! (Guest Post)

How To Use Trend Line Correctly! (Guest Post)

This post, How To Use Trend Line Correctly! was originally posted here. The writer is a veteran community member on InvestingNote, with username known as Rayner.

Trend Line is one of the most versatile tools in trading.

You can use it in day trading, swing trading or even position trading.

However, most traders get it wrong.

They draw Trend Lines looking like this…

I know I’m exaggerating, but you get my point.

That’s why in today’s post, you’ll learn:

  • What is a Trend Line and how does it work
  • How to draw a Trend Line correctly (that most traders never find out)
  • How to use Trend Line to identify the direction of the trend — and tell when the market condition has changed
  • How to use Trend Line to better time your entries
  • The Trend Line Breakout strategy
  • How to ride massive trends using a simple Trend Line technique
  • How to use Trend Line and identify trend reversal

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Workshop Recap: 市场剧烈震荡,如何避免市场陷阱,实现稳定获利 | Stock Trading Workshop

Workshop Recap: 市场剧烈震荡,如何避免市场陷阱,实现稳定获利 | Stock Trading Workshop

We had our first workshop conducted in Chinese for our monthly workshop series last Friday!

Even though the workshop size is reduced, we still had a full house!

Conducted by Dr. Robin Han, this workshop offered a different perspective of trading in the market – using market psychology and game theory.


We’d like to thank everyone who attended and supported us through this workshop. We also hope all attendees had some great takeaways in which they can use in their own trading!

Check out Dr. Robin Han’s latest insights about the markets here.

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市场剧烈震荡,如何避免市场陷阱,实现稳定获利 | Stock Trading Workshop

市场剧烈震荡,如何避免市场陷阱,实现稳定获利 | Stock Trading Workshop

Our monthly workshop series is back!

This time, it’s all about technical trading, conducted entirely in Chinese!


Let’s see if you could relate with the following below:








  1. 如何系统的避免“一买就跌,一卖就涨”的噩梦?
  2. 如何用博弈(Game Theory)的观点,剖析市场的本质,抓住获利的核心?
  3. 如何炼成火眼金睛,避免假消息,假财报的毒害?
  4. 如何透过重重迷雾和假象,找到真正值得投资的股票?
  5. 如何以较低的风险去交换大得多的潜在获利,助你成为长期赢家?
  6. 当场实践学习成果,马上学以致用
  7. 韩博士也会展望接下来市场的走势并分析当下最具有投资机会的股票

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Trading With Fibonacci – The Professional Way: Workshop Recap

Trading With Fibonacci – The Professional Way: Workshop Recap

Most of us are familiar with technical analysis indicators such as stochastic, MACD, RSI and moving average.

But do you know that these indicators are lagging in nature?

As they are derived from historical data, these lagging indicators sometimes give a trade signal only after the price had made a significant move.

The Fibonacci Retracement Tool is sometimes called leading technical analysis indicator because of its predictive nature, which gives advance notice on potential reversal levels and hence help in the timing of entries and exit.


We had a technical analysis workshop on teach people how to use the Fibonacci Retracement Tool yesterday, conducted by a veteran community member and TA expert, Ong Bee Heng.

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Top 4 Stocks With The Highest Ratio Of Short Sell Volume In 2017

Top 4 Stocks With The Highest Ratio Of Short Sell Volume In 2017

In investing terms, longing a stock essentially means buying a stock, with the hopes of it become higher to make a profit. The opposite can be said for shorting a stock which means selling a stock with the expectation of the price can become lower.

However, longing a stock isn’t the only way to make a profit.

Short selling too, can achieve the same purpose.

A brief explanation of short selling:

Short selling essentially means you borrow a stock, with the expectation to buy it back at a lower price in order to make a profit. The profit is realized when the stock is bought back at a lower price and returned. Borrowing of stock occurs through brokerages.

In terms of transaction volume, there is also short sell volume. Short sell volume of a stock is the total number of shares short sold in the entire market during a given period of time. This does not include any CFD shorts.

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FREE Technical Analysis (TA) Charting Tool Tutorial

FREE Technical Analysis (TA) Charting Tool Tutorial

Due to numerous feedback on how to better utilise our free Technical Analysis (TA) charting tool, we’ve come up with a simple guide to help people who’re new to our charts get started in 3 minutes!


You can either watch our quick 5 minute video or refer to the user guide here.

We hope that this tutorial will help you utilise our charts better! The TA charts are completely free to use, and are one of the best free tools and resources in the market available to investors.

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*Note: this tutorial is NOT teaching Technical Analysis, but the utilisation of the charting tool. All stocks, indicators and drawings shown are just for illustration purposes to show the functions of our tool.

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TA Series 10: Momentum

TA Series 10: Momentum

Welcome back everyone to the 9th post of TA series. Finally, it is time to talk about a more advanced momentum and trend indicators. Regardless of the type of investor you are, I believe that this post is going to help you to make better decision on when to enter or exit a position, and therefore maximizes your return. Since previously I have talked about trend and idea behind them, in this post I will go through momentum and its indicator in a greater detail and I will end by discussing how to combine both indicator to come up with the most informed trade decision. So, let’s begin.


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